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How the Government Tried to Silence #WALKAWAY Founder Brandon Straka | Ep60
They came for him. They tried to silence him. But he’s back.
Brandon Straka, founder of the WalkAway movement, shares the full, unfiltered story of what happened after January 6th. From FBI raids and house arrest to financial blacklisting and a presidential pardon, Brandon reveals how the government used him as a political weapon—and why he refused to back down.
In this gripping conversation, he breaks down the truth behind his arrest, the media’s role in shaping the narrative, and the staggering lengths the system went to in order to destroy his movement. Now, with the WalkAway campaign growing every day, he's more dedicated to his mission of exposing the lies of the left than ever before.
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🔗 Watch Brandon’s viral video: “Six Years Later: Why I Still Walk Away” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jQvHHvhY0&t=226s
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But I go on this interview with Greg Kelly literally about 20 minutes after I found
out I had been pardoned and just heard crying on air and I start crying because it
just all started to hit me and you know, I don't know if people Fully know or
appreciate, you know, five people committed suicide Because they couldn't could not
bear what the government was doing to people and I that they just couldn't handle
it And for them, a pardon came too late, and that's the part I think that really
hit me.
Welcome to another episode in the series Life Lessons with Dr. Bob. My guest today
is Brandon Strach, the founder and president of the walkaway movement. This is his
second visit with me. The first was three years ago. You can view that conversation
in episode 21 in the series. Unfortunately, you can't find it on my YouTube channel
because they took it down, maybe it was too controversial. But you can watch it on
Rumble. For those of you who don't know much about Brandon, or don't have time to
watch that first episode with him, I'm gonna give you a brief summary after which
we'll have a conversation on what he's been doing the past three years, including
his time on parole, for being one of those insurrectionists on the Capitol Grounds
on January 6th, 2021. First a bit of background.
Brandon was a committed leftist for many years until 2018 when he had an epiphany
and realized that everything he had been taught about America by the leftist
organizations that he supported were false. He realized that he had been brainwashed.
At that moment, he founded a political movement, the Walkaway Campaign, and the
related non -profit, the Walkaway Foundation. The Foundation's mission is to educate
Americans about the intolerance of the left and to encourage them to walk away from
the Democratic Party, and instead to embrace unity, civility,
respect, and belief in the American ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of
happiness. You can think about walk away as an alcoholic's anonymous for radicals and
leftists who are unhappy with the negative propaganda about America that they've been
taught to believe.
- Welcome to the show, Brandon. - Thank you. Can I just say your show is actually
excellent? Truly, like that intro that you just did, I felt that way the last time
I was with you too. Very well, like very well researched. - Thanks.
I do, I spend a fair amount of time in my son who's younger, criticizes me.
He said, "Dad, you're doing it wrong, it's just supposed to be a conversation. I
said, well, that's how Joe Rogan does it, but you know, Dr. Bob does it a
different way. You know, I want to hit all the points that are relevant and I want
to give my guest, you tonight, the opportunity to speak without being interrupted,
which of course doesn't happen on nightly news or anything like that. They ask a
complex question, Can you summarize that in five seconds and you can't?
So we have plenty of time to go into depth and into the issues that are affecting
my guests and you tonight. - Love it. - So let's start with the January 6th,
2021. - Right to it. - After Trump's defeat in the 2020 election,
you joined the Stop the Steel
You're in D .C. on January 6th. Tell us a story. Why did you go there? What did
you see? And how long were you on the Capitol grounds? - So I was invited to go
to D .C. on January 6th because I was a speaker, a scheduled speaker. And so a lot
of people don't know this. There was a second event that was scheduled, a permitted
event on Capitol grounds. So President Trump was always scheduled to speak at the
ellipse, then there was going to be a march from the ellipse to the capital. And
then a second event, a permitted event on capital grounds where dozens of people are
going to speak, including members of Congress and a number of other people. Now the
capital grounds, it's huge. And there's different lots,
I believe they're called. And so I think it was something like lots six had been
- Allocated for this. - Yeah, thank you, permitted. And so I was on my way to my
speaking engagement and as I was arriving, I started getting text messages from
friends, family, people all over the country watching on television who were saying,
we're hearing on the news that something's happening. There's some sort of incident
taking place and that people are going inside the building. Well, I don't believe
anything the news as ever, and I have a very large social media following, and I'm
here. So my thought was, if something's happening, I wanna see for myself. I have
the option to capture it, upload it to social media. Probably more people see my
posts than watch CNN. So I thought, I have an opportunity here to debunk something
that the media may be starting to create a narrative. So I start shooting a video
and walking up to the east side of the Capitol and in my video you clearly see
That the things are very calm on the east side there's groups of people kind of
scattered out on the outer grounds is where I started and Groups of you know 15 20
whatever people are staying around talking smoking cigarettes in my video You see a
woman pushing a baby stroller people riding bicycles, not the energy of, you know, a
violent attempt to overthrow the government. And in my video, I continue to walk up
the sidewalk on the east side, and I didn't realize at the time that it would
later become relevant. But in my video, you see that off to the left side of the
sidewalk and off to the right side of the sidewalk is bike rack, but that the
sidewalk itself is completely open because the bike rack that maybe at one time had
closed off the sidewalk had been completely opened up. - Yes. - There were no signs
on the east side that said trespassing or don't walk beyond this point or anything
like that or grounds closed. There were zero police officers on the east side of
the building and on the other side of that open sidewalk were hundreds,
if not thousands of people standing on the east side, capital steps and outside of
the steps. So I walked into this crowd of people and when I got there at the top
of the steps on the east side of the capital, there was a man standing at the
top, cupping his hands over his mouth like this and he was shouting down, they've
opened the doors, they're letting us in, we're going inside, we're going inside. So
I walked up to the top of the steps on the east side of the capital and when I
out there, sure enough, both of the large metal Columbus doors on the east side
were both wide open. And there were a crowd of several hundred people at the top
of the stairs. Some of them were trying to push their way in. The majority, like
me, were just standing there shooting video. - Now when you say shooting video, you
had a photographer with you also, right? - No, it was just me. So it was just me
and I had hired two security guards. And the reason why I had hired security guards
were not because I was afraid there would be a violent incident or anything, but
because I needed to get from point A to point B, and they were there to keep me
on time. - I see. - Yeah, because I was at the ellipse watching President Trump
speak. I mean, there were hundreds of thousands of people at the ellipse, and in
fact, my security told me I could not do the march, which I was disappointed about
'cause I loved doing that. They said, you'll never get there on time 'cause
everyone's gonna stop and take pictures. You have to take the DC Metro, which is
what I did. And then, you know, once I got there, that's when I started getting
the messages something's happening at the Capitol. So I got to the top of the
stairs, the doors are open, some people are pushing their way in, and I stood
outside of the building for eight minutes with my camera fully above my head,
pointed down shooting, because there were so many people, I was about 35 feet away
from the open doors, hundreds of people between me and the open doors, and a lot
of the people were taller than me. A lot of them had flags that were hanging down
on poles. So I took my camera, pointed it down like this so that it could see
what my eyes could not see. And after about eight minutes, a man came out of the
building, got on a bullhorn. He was, I believe a protester. And he got on a
bullhorn and he said, they've cleared Congress, everyone's left the building, move
out, move out. And I immediately turned around and left and even told the people
behind me they're saying to move out, go this way. So to be clear, I never entered
the capital on January 6th, didn't engage in any violence, vandalism, theft, or
destruction, and I didn't even witness any. It's not even like I was standing there
while, other people were breaking windows or fighting with officers. Everyone was just
standing there and then some people were walking through the open doors, you know,
kind of pushing their way. - So you didn't even see them breaking windows? - Well,
no way. - No, if I had seen people breaking windows or if I had seen people being
aggressive with police officers or something, I would have at that point-- - Filmed
it. - Well, filmed it, but I also would have said something. I would have been
like, what are you guys doing? - Stop, you wouldn't say go, go, go. - No, I
wouldn't, no, I wouldn't do that.
And let me take that a step further. If I did for some reason lose my mind and
decide to do that, I wouldn't then upload the video to social media so that all of
my followers could see me do it.
Well, we'll get to that in a moment. I'll make that point in a second. But that
is what I saw, and I then took that video that I had just shot, which ended up
being about eight minutes long, a little bit, and I uploaded it to Twitter.
- And you just did it on your regular cell phone? Is that what you used? Yeah, I
shot it on my cell phone and I uploaded it to Twitter and one of the reasons why
I uploaded it to Twitter, I mean, I would have done it anyway. But while I was
still at the Capitol, I started getting messages from the Tucker Carlson show, from
Newsmax, from, you know, saying, are you there? Are you seeing anything? And can you
come on the show tonight? And I said, yeah, I can come on the show tonight. And
so the Tucker show expressed interest in, and having me on so I thought to myself
well I better get back to my hotel room and change you know I was wearing you
know jeans and you know sweater or whatever but I thought you know I better go now
because it's gonna take a while to get back so I started heading back to my hotel
room and my thought was I might as well upload my footage now so it'll start to
circulate so by the time I go on the show people already exactly be familiar with
- And to be on the show, there's no studio you go to, it's just from your phone?
- No, no, no, I would have gone to a studio in DC. - Oh, in DC, there is a
studio. - By satellite, I have interviewed with Tucker. And so, you know, I've done
it before, so I kind of knew the amount of time I would need to prepare, plus
since there were hundreds of thousands of people in DC, you got to allow extra time
to get around.
And so by the time I got back to my hotel room to change for the show. I got a
message from the show saying, we're not going to have you on tonight. The story is
changing. And I thought, well, what does that mean? The story is changing. So that's
when for the first time I turned on my TV in my hotel room and I started to see
the, the footage of what had happened on the other side of the building. Got it. I
see. That's when I started to see people breaking windows and things like that,
which was not happening where I was and and I got confused to be I was like is
this happening now like did something break out after I left or you know what is
going on it was the same time it was a confusing thing and since I didn't know I
decided it was a good idea to take my video down because I was like I don't want
people to think I'm there whatever's happening I don't get it you know and so I
took the video down and it had only lived on Twitter for maybe an hour or two and
me posting it and being taken down, but that was long enough for these left -wing
lunatics to copy it, and then they began posting it and reposting it every single
day for weeks. - But your video wasn't so interesting, right? - That's what I
thought. That's what I thought. You know, they kept reposting it and tagging the FBI
and the DOJ and telling them that I was there, I was a part of the insurrection,
and that they should come and get me. And so these were not friends. No, no, these
were people on the left who are crazy, right? And Who know you?
Well, yeah, they know of you. You know of me and because of the the work I've
done advocating for people to leave the Democratic Party and the success of the
walkway movement and So to your point Not such an interesting video people were
saying to me are you worried? And I said, well, I'm not super comfortable with
what's happening here, but I'm not worried because I didn't break the law. And my
video shows, I didn't do anything. So what do I have to be worried about, right?
So imagine my surprise, two and a half weeks later. - Well as you went home, you
didn't get interviewed by Tucker or by Newsmax, you go home and you're not thinking
about it anymore. - Not much, I mean, at that point, I was basically thinking about
what's next for a walk away and to be really honest with you, as disappointed as I
was about how things turned out for Trump and that he was not going to have a
second term, I thought I was kind of excited in a way for the next four years of
walk away under Democrat leadership because I knew The disaster that was about to
unfold and I thought well, this is gonna be like shooting fish in a barrel Yeah,
right because they're gonna see good. I did it difference great I you know, I
thought let's make the best of this but that became very difficult because Two and
a half weeks after January 6th on the morning of Monday, January 25th in Omaha,
Nebraska in Omaha, Nebraska I woke up at dawn to a team of FBI agents and tactical
gear, storming my apartment, getting me out of bed, putting me in handcuffs,
and they began stripping my apartment of my computers, phones, iPads,
hard drives, thumb drives, camera equipment, clothing, and cuffed me and told me that
they were taking me to jail on multiple felony charges for what I had done on
January 6th, and I very reflexively said, I said felonies,
I said, I didn't even commit any crimes. And the agent said to me, Oh, I saw your
video. I saw what you did. And now here's the crazy thing. I had never watched my
own video. I shot it. I uploaded it to Twitter. I took it down a couple hours
later. But once they told me they weren't going to have me in any of the news
shows, I didn't really care. You know, I never looked at it. - Right.
- So when this man tells me I'm facing multiple felonies for what I did, I didn't
say anything. But in my brain, I'm going, what the hell did I do? Like, and I was
trying to replay that day in my mind going, did I do something and I don't
remember it? You know, like, what the hell? And I got taken to jail,
sat there in a 24 -hour lockdown for two and a half days. - They booked you. They
booked you. - Oh yeah, I was-- - Fingerprints, photographs, the whole business.
- Fingerprints, photographs, orange jumpsuit,
and plastic sandals, and put me in an eight -by -eight concrete cell with a metal
door. Told me that I would be in there for two weeks before being put into general
population, and Which was honestly the hardest part for me. I'm extremely
claustrophobic and I wouldn't like to go to jail I wouldn't like to go to prison,
but I could handle it. You know, I'm I could deal with it I'm not equipped to
deal with being put in an eight by eight concrete cell for two weeks And have them
shut the door, but what kind of prison is an Omaha, Nebraska? Well, it's it's
called Douglas County Jail, so it's a county jail, but it's, I mean, there's, I
can't imagine what the difference could be between prison and this because I was in,
you know, again, the same exact type of eight by eight cell and everybody there is
wearing orange jumpsuits, has tattoos on their face, no teeth, you know, bulging eyes
and crazy looking people and-- - So I think just for the audience, the difference
between jail and prison, jail is local. It's a community or city or state was
prison means more serious crimes, federal crimes. - Yeah,
but the people in jail are no funny there. - I don't think that matters,
yeah. - No, I mean, I had a cellmate during the time I was there and he was a
four -time repeat offender that they put me in with and in there for his fourth
stint on drug charges and things like that. So it wasn't great.
So they didn't give you access to an attorney? They read you your rights, right?
Oh, I think so. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, hard to remember. Right. But I know I
didn't have an attorney at the time. However, I was able to make a phone call when
I went in. So I called a member of my team, one of my employees, explained what
was going on. She got to work trying to find me an attorney and I knew she
wouldn't let me down. So I knew it was happening, but I was just in there kind of
waiting. And it took two and a half days before I was able to go before a judge.
They took me into another cell and it was a virtual hearing. So put me in another
concrete cell shut the door and then I was sitting in front of a computer that lit
up and all of a sudden there was a federal judge and a federal prosecutor and an
attorney who was my attorney and me and The judge said this is the case of the
United States of America versus Brandon Strock Which was the first time I cried and
I I don't cry that much and I probably honestly in the last four plus years cried
maybe four times over January 6th, but that was one of them because that devastated
me to hear those words. And yeah, it was horrible. I mean, I had just spent the
previous two and a half years traveling the country, raising money and going around
the country, going into colleges, going into minority communities, doing these events,
trying to get people to wake up and think for themselves because I have been so
worried and concerned about the trajectory our country was on and what was going to
happen to our nation. Now our country is versus me in criminal court as though I'm
an enemy of the country. And the prosecutors know that you have the other
organization or they knew Oh, and that's why they're leaning on if you were just an
ordinary guy They probably wouldn't have even arrested you right and it's not even a
matter of opinion The reason why I say this so confidently is because so the judge
ordered my release which by the way the government didn't fight for they they that
was actually like Humorous in a way like perversely humorous because the prosecutor
said your honor. He's very Jovial. Your honor, we know Mr. Strock didn't engage in
any violence, vandalism, theft or destruction. And we know that Mr. Strock didn't go
in the Capitol. So your honor, the government is comfortable not seeking detention of
Mr. Strock pending his trial. And I think to myself, okay, if you know all of
these things, why did you just send a SWAT team into my apartment, like they're
searching for Osama bin Laden, you know, and throw me in this, like, are you
kidding? But once I got out of jail, that's when I was able to read. So the
government filed an eight page charging document against me. And the majority of it
talked about my work with walk away. Mr. Strzok has this organization walk away
campaign. He travels around the country encouraging people to leave the Democratic
party. He has a very large social media following. He's a influential person in the
world of politics. And that's why his actions on January 6th are particularly
egregious because it's not like he's just some, you know, hillbilly from wherever who
came to the capital. He went there knowing that people follow him and support him
and listen to him. And that's why what he did is he's got to be taught a lesson
and a deterrent. So I mean, they, they weren't even, you know, it was very candidly
out there that a major walk away yeah influence and why they did what they did but
yeah no so then what I learned was that they were accusing me of encouraging people
to go inside the building they claimed that I witnessed the crowd taking a shield
from a police officer and that I shouted take it take it to encourage the crowd to
take the shield from an officer they said that I went into the restricted area of
the Capitol grounds knowing that the grounds were restricted and that I was breaking
the law, but that I chose to do it anyway. I mean, they didn't have that much to
to even create. It's not like they could say, oh, he punched an officer in the
face and, you know, because there were no officers visible around. But what they
could do is create a lot of innuendo to make it seem as though I went there with
an intention to stir up the mob and to try to get, You know and to create anarchy
and to get people to storm the building and do what they're gonna do None of these
things are true But this is the first time you know, I said when you interviewed
me a couple of years ago You weren't free at that time to comment honestly and
openly because you were on parole Well, because I had signed a plea deal I see
yeah, because they charged me it's they did charge me with multiple felonies and a
misdemeanor and they threatened to add a third felony which is the now stricken down
by the Supreme Court the 1512 obstruction of an official proceeding felony which they
made sure to tell everybody this carries up to 20 years in prison you know and
they said or this can all go away if you sign plead guilty to a misdemeanor sign
our statement of offense which is basically the confession that they write on your
behalf. And that's the choice that I made, because everybody connected with January
6th, who went to trial, who dared to defend themselves, the government's getting a
100 % conviction rate against all of these people. Well, it's in Washington, DC.
Yeah. And all of these people are getting anywhere from three months up to 22 years
in federal prison, because they're going to trial. And so I knew that was not an
option. So I took the misdemeanor plea deal. - Did your attorney try to talk down
the claims that they were trying to make you sign? - Well, we told them that those
allegations were not true and the response that we got from them was, well, if
that's how he feels, he's welcome to go to trial and say that to a judge and
jury. But if he wants to take a plea deal, this is how we see things. - I see.
- And-- - Let's take it or leave it. - Take it or leave it. That was the deal. I
took it, which was a nightmare for so many reasons, a nightmare.
But one of the things that was the most horrible about it is, it's hard to put
into words how psychologically and emotionally distressing it is to be forced to say
you did something you didn't do. Even if it's not, you know, I wasn't accused of
murder, but I was accused of encouraging anarchy and encouraging,
I don't know if you would call it violence, but certainly disorderliness towards
police officers, which is something I would never do. And the purpose of that was
to try to erode the trust between me and my followers and my audience and my
donors and supporters. I mean, who wants to support a guy who goes to the capital
and tells everyone to harm police, right? - And you had to sign it because the
alternative was going to trial knowing it would be, not in Omaha, Nebraska,
but it would be in Boston and D .C. - That's right. - Which is obviously blue And
they would pack the jury with jurors who were against violence against the government
as you're against violence against the government Yeah, but it would mean that you
would face if you were convicted on all those charges Which would be a possibility
up to 30 years in federal prison. That's exactly right. That's exactly right and
Yeah, I mean it's not just blue I mean these people hate Donald Trump and they
hate people who vote for Donald Trump. And it's a, you know, I think it's worth
mentioning. It's a very, I don't know if it's minority majority,
but I mean, there's an enormous amount of, you know, people of color in DC that
are ending up on these juries. And they've been told for five, six, whatever years,
the Trump supporters are racists and white supremacists. So now they're sitting in
judgment of people that they think are bigots and racists, and of course they're
gonna take advantage of the opportunity to dish out some justice to these people.
Well, one positive thing that I didn't realize is that they spoke in your favor
about not keeping you in jail until your trial. So probably the judge would never
have agreed to that anyway. I don't think so. I don't think so. And yes, obviously
that was very, very helpful. And I was happy about that. Not being in jail is
pretty good. And the majority of people that wasn't, you know, that is kind of, I
think, one of the things that people misunderstand.
Looking back on these last four years, there's just so much stuff that all of us
have had to endure. But like, you know, there were a number of people, not many,
thank goodness, but there, you know, there were definitely people on the right who
were like well why did you get out and the others didn't you know what did you do
and it's like it wasn't just me I mean the majority of us didn't have to be in
jail pending trial and which is not to say the others deserved it but for the
people who you know think about it this way almost 1600 people were charged for
January 6th and of them probably 150 or less were held pending trial.
It wasn't that many in proportion. And those people were probably people who were
accused of violence, accused of destruction, or accused of seditious conspiracy plan,
which was absurd. But it wasn't as though I was the only one. But it took about a
year between the time that you were arrested and charged to the time that you
signed the plea deal, right? It was a year. Well, why would it take that long? Is
that was that up to them? They would just drag. Okay. Yes. Up to them. So and
that's another important point that you're making is, you know, when I initially when
I got out of jail, like literally the next day when I got out of jail, I met
with my attorney for the first time. And he told me that he had already been on
the phone with the prosecutors during those days that I was in jail. And he told
me they've expressed that they're open to a plea deal, they're open to dropping
felonies if you'll plead guilty to a misdemeanor. So those conversations had already
begun. So why would it take a year? Right, right, right. So they told me that if
I pled guilty, I would likely, my case would likely be resolved within 60 to 90
days. So that sounded like a good deal to me and that was part of what influence
me to say, you know, however, we get to the first end of the first night because
they had 90 days that they had to make a decision. Oh, I see. We got to day 89
and they say, we need 90 more days. So then you get to day 80. They wait until
the period. Are you have a supervisor or anything? Yeah.
Okay. Right. So before you're convicted, you have a pre -trial supervisor, which is
the same as a probation officer. It's called a pretrial officer. And it's the exact
same stipulations. You have to check in every week. So you're on probation,
essentially. Yeah, you're at that all that time. So essentially, what they're trying
to do is extend the probation period. That's right. Yeah. Well, and it's more than
just that. I mean, it's, you know, you hear the phrase, the process is the
punishment. I mean, that whole process that you're going, and every time they extend
your case, it creates another wave of horrible media where they, horrible media,
because the media was just salivating over these J6 cases and calling people
terrorists and insurrectionists. And so to answer your question, they extended my case
five times. They did this five times, 90 more days, 90 more days, 90 more days.
- There's nothing your lawyer could do to say, hey, we don't have to agree for
that. - Well, of course I was saying tell them no, tell them no. And my lawyer
said, well, if we No, they're just going to go to the judge. The judge is going
to give it to them. And then now you're, you've fallen out of favor with them
because you weren't cooperative. So it's in your best interest to be cooperative and
just say, yes, that's fine. And then the judge grants it and, and you know,
whatever. Wow. But to add insult to injury, obviously I didn't support any of these
extensions. I was against every single one of them. What the government would do is
once we went back to them and said, fine, we agreed 90 more days, then the
government would draft a memo to the court saying Mr. Shrock has requested 90 more
days in his case. - Oh, that's rubbing salt on the wound.
- Yeah, every single time. That's what they were saying. - Why on earth would a
defendant want an extension? - Because they would say we weren't adequately prepared.
- Prepared, I see. - They would say Mr. Shrock-- - They don't prepare, they're gonna
give you a piece of paper - Correct. - Right. - Yep. - Wow, okay, yeah. - Yeah, but
any opportunity to throw salt on the wound, make your life harder and make the
process as big as possible. - Were you happy with the attorney? He did, he gave you
good advice, or would you have been better with an Alan Dershowitz? - I wonder, you
know, I always wonder. So I technically had two attorneys, one I called my primary
attorney, one was my secondary attorney. they couldn't have been more different. The
primary attorney was more, I describe as more like cool headed and passive.
The secondary attorney was a little more aggressive, but also a bit of an alarmist.
And I still have a good relationship with my secondary attorney. The primary
attorney, I will always wonder if things could have been
you know, I wasn't there for a lot of conversations he had with the government. I
was getting these conversations, you know, secondhand, but I don't know that he
fought for me as much as maybe could have been possible. I've always wondered,
because I saw him at times fall apart in front of the judge.
And so I'm like, wow, was that what was happening with the prosecution too? You
know, were you just allowing them to or, but that being said, I know the way
everybody's case has turned out and all different people had all different attorneys
and we all got the same bad results. I see. You know, so it's one of those things
that plays with your head, but in all likelihood, there was no good result for
January 6th. Yeah. Everybody was doing it. Well, there were two parts to your
penalty. I'll call one part the direct punishment and the other part the direct
punishment. The direct punishment was three years of probation after that first,
after already being on for a year. So how did being on probation for three years
affect your life? Well, first of all, I was also put on house arrest as part of
my sentence. So I did get three years of probation. That's true. And that was after
a year of being on pretrial supervision. But but before just the three years,
the judge sentenced me to three months of house arrest. - Oh, I don't recall that.
- That's right. So that means I had to have an ankle tracking monitor put on and
then I, for 90 days, I was not allowed to leave my apartment. - Even to go
shopping or to? - Nothing. And you, I mean, I couldn't even go down to get my mail
in my lobby. I mean, you're not allowed out of the four corners of your apartment.
So they literally, they have your probation officer come over and they cal, you have
to stand in each of the corners of your home. - And just map it. - Yeah, yeah.
Now, I mean, and that's, it's, it's one of the great disparities really kind of of
house arrest because you know, you're me, you live in a one bedroom apartment.
You're somebody who has a 20 ,000 foot estate, you know, your house arrest is a
problem. - Basically I'm on house arrest every
I didn't want to call you out, but for your audience, Dr. Bob has a very nice
house. If I was on house arrest here, might be a different story, I'd be totally
fine. But for three months, confined to my apartment, and it's better than being in
prison, for sure, no doubt about that, but it does take a toll on you in a way,
psychologically, and it's kind of weird. It's been years since I was on house
arrest. But I still find myself at times in my apartment staring out my window and
being like, Oh, yeah, you can go outside. Now, was that was that part of the plea
deal? Did you understand that you were going to be under house or oh, they
wouldn't. And that that was they wouldn't even indicate what the penalty was going
to be. Not at all. You have to say I agree to these crimes without knowing what
was going to happen. Exactly right. Punishment. That was another very strange thing
about January 6th, and that's pretty atypical, because I think in most situations, if
you're taking a plea deal, they'll say, in exchange for this plea deal, we're not
going to ask for jail time, or we're Right. Or we'll give seven days, or yeah.
They wouldn't say. And almost everybody, even who pled guilty to a misdemeanor,
was getting two, three months in federal prison. So I do think the fact that I
didn't enter the building helped me significantly, and the fact that I shut my
mouth, which is not, that's not a judgment on anybody else, but I'm probably the
only January 6th defendant who took my lawyer's advice. My lawyer told me on day
one, I need you to disappear. I disappear, he said, no news interviews, no social
media, no events, no fundraising, no whatever, and I did, and that went on for a
year. I mean, I just Disappeared and I think that they didn't feel as vengeful for
toward me because of that. That's probably right. I Was just thinking that your
attorney somebody should have said well, he's gonna Sign this plea deal pleading
guilty to these misdemeanors But you have to tell us what you're going to ask the
court as punishment. Yeah, I Maybe he did ask that but that would have been
helpful. They wouldn't though and and they didn't for anybody. I mean, it was, it
was like a great route, you know, route for all of us. Yeah. And I can tell you
too, we were shocked when they came back with their sentencing recommendation because
my lawyer had told me, and again, this is, you have to remember even whether I had
this lawyer, a different lawyer, every lawyer who's dealt with a J6 case, they,
they, in their, it's like a community of lawyers now, and they have this term that
they use, they they call it J6 jurisprudence, meaning what it's like to practice the
law under the umbrella of January 6, which is outside the norms of anything these
lawyers have ever dealt with before, even seasoned lawyers with decades of federal
trial experience have never seen anything like this. And so, you know,
my lawyer had told me, you don't have a criminal record, it's your first offense,
It's a class B misdemeanor. And he said, you already spent several days in jail
when they raided you and arrested you. He said, nobody goes to jail on a first
offense misdemeanor. He said, the judge is gonna give you time served and you'll -
- That should have been it. - There's gonna be behind you. So then when the
government came back a week before sentencing and presented us with a 30 page
sentencing recommendation, which included that they wanted four months of house arrest,
three years of probation, they wanted the right to surveil my computers, my social
media, my email accounts for three years, community service,
fines, fees, restitution, all sorts of stuff. We were like, we just couldn't believe
it. And my attorney said, I don't know what's going to happen at this point.
But he was like, surely the judge is not going to go for this." Well, she went
for all of it. The only thing she gave me was instead of four months of house
rest, she gave me three. And she did tell the government that they did not have
the right to surveil my computers and my social media and my email and things like
that. But other than that, I got three months of house rest, three years of
probation, 60 hours of community service, fines, fees, restitution,
and court ordered mental health services because obviously I'm insane because I voted
for Donald Trump. This sounds like the gulag for Christ's sake. It was absolutely
nuts. And then to answer your question about what is three years of probation like,
well, I mean, we're talking about regular check -ins with a probation officer, drug
testing, ongoing drug, I've been sober for over 10 years, and drug,
drug testing. And then I couldn't leave the district that I lived in without
permission from the court. So someone like me, who, you know, pre January six, I
mean, I was probably three cities a week. Yeah. And, and the thing is, it's not
even state to state, it's district to district. So California, for instance, five
different districts. So, you know, there was a time a couple of years ago where I
had requested permission to go see one of my donors and spend time with them, which
was granted. And that was in San Diego. So I went to San Diego, posted on social
media that I was with one of my donors. One of my donors in Los Angeles saw the
post and said, "Hey, you're close by. "Can you come have dinner with me Friday
night?" Sure, I can't. Call my probation officer. No, no, Los Angeles is a different
district than San Diego, you can't go. So I had to tell my donor I could not have
dinner with them on Friday night because a district a city two hours away from San
Diego was a different district that didn't have permission to go so your probation
officer wasn't very very responsive to to the fact that you never did anything wrong
they never asked you that they just go by the book you you you did this you said
you did this in his the penalty - Well, I'll say this. - They weren't sympathetic,
not at all. These people deal with hardened criminals. I would think that they say,
Brandon, do whatever you wanna do, come in next month and we'll talk. - I couldn't
use the word sympathetic because she was never,
so let me start by saying this. She was extremely nice and I was extremely lucky
to have the probation officer that I had. It could have been so much worse, and
I'm so grateful that I had her. That being said, she was extremely professional, and
never tipped her hand to me about how she felt about politics or felt about me,
and never tipped her hand to me about how she felt about my case. Other than the
fact that in the course of following the rules, which she always did, she always
made me feel like she was just following the rules that she had to follow and not
making things harder than they needed to be.
And there were very few slip -ups. I mean, I really abided by the rules and I
tried to respect what-- - Right, but I would have thought that she'd say, "Well,
it's a close district, I give you permission." - Yeah, yeah. - That she had that
ability to do, right? I assume she had that flexibility. - I don't know that she
she did because she gave you permission to go to San Diego. Right. But look at it
this way. So it's not just a matter of her discretion. She has to contact the
district and get their permission as well. Oh, now let's say that I had driven from
San Diego to Los Angeles. I got to Los Angeles and I got pulled over by a police
officer. So now there's record of me being in Los Angeles, which she didn't call
Los Angeles and get permission to get either. Now she's in trouble. You know, oh, I
So yeah, I see. Yeah. So it's, yeah, it's serious penalty,
but the second part of the penalty was perhaps just as problematic. They canceled
you. They tried to make both you and walk away disappear. So now elaborate on how
you are canceled. Well, um, so the, the group that I created hashtag walk away
campaign, which at that point had grown to over half a million people. Um, and we
had, uh, tens of thousands of testimonial videos of people and, and stories of
people sharing about why they walked away from the democratic party. Facebook
eliminated the group, banned it, banned all and deleted all the content, took
everything. I didn't even have time to mourn that or deal with that because I was
too busy fighting for my life at the time, but I mean, that was hugely devastating
to walk away as a whole. But in addition to that, I mean, within, I'd say the
first 30 days of me getting arrested, both I as an individual, Brandon Strock and
the walk away organization, walk away foundation, even though walk away had nothing
to do with January 6, I wasn't there. Walkway didn't pay for me to go. I wasn't
there on behalf of walk away. So it was just an opportunity to hurt us, because it
was totally no connection whatsoever. But Walkaway was permanently banned by PayPal,
Venmo, Stripe, Patreon. The next five or six email services that we were using
MailChimp, they banned us. Then we switched to Constant Contact, they banned us. It
just, the next series of five, six email services, we were banned by banks, payment
processors, so nearly everything digitally that you would need to do business in the
year 2020 and beyond, banned us permanently. So in 2021,
because remember this was January 2021, we went about eight months without even being
able to process a donation from our donors, because we couldn't. I mean, not only
did we not have the payment processors? We didn't have the donor portals. We didn't
have banks. We didn't have, I mean, it was a mess. And so it took us all of
those and we'd start with a new service and then they would ban us and start with
another and they would ban us. So it took us about that long. And we finally got
to the point where we're like, we need to find conservative, well, Republican run
businesses, we need to sit down and have conversations with them, explain the
situation and get assurances that they will not ban us. And then we need to custom
build a lot of these things, which is what we did. So we had to literally custom
build a payment processor for us, a donor portal for us, all these things,
which took time. And then we had to migrate as much as we could the recurring
donors that we had. And we lost Not 65 % of our monthly recurring donors in that
migration, not because they didn't want to support us anymore. They couldn't. There
was no way. We couldn't even contact them to tell them it had happened. We couldn't
email them. So I mean, people thought they were still supporting us and we couldn't
even contact them and tell them that they weren't. And so after about, you know, I
don't know, eight months, I'd say we got back up and running, started reaching out
to some bigger donors at that point who's stuck with us. Some people didn't. Thank
God, the majority did. The majority did. But there were some that said, I don't
want to be connected anymore. It's too hot. I don't want to get investigated myself.
That was the goal of the punch? That was the goal. That's right. But we got some
money coming back in. To be honest with you, we did really well that you're
considering, it was our worst year financially. But I mean, the number could have
been zero. And it wasn't, you know, and so we, we,
we kept going. I didn't have to let any of my team go, which was scary. And that,
by the way, I mean, let's take a moment to kind of honor that because even though
I didn't do anything wrong, really, like, I still felt guilty and responsible because
I have a team. I'm responsible for these people's paychecks and I'm responsible for
their children's getting doctors care, going to school and all of these things if
their parents don't have a job. And the idea that I might have to fire employees
or let people go because of what was happening to me, it was, I was like, I'm not
gonna let this happen. And thank got it didn't like no one had to get lose their
job. And then and then going into 2022, that's when I was on house arrest.
And so about halfway into 2022, I finally, you know, after January of 2021,
was able to go out and start working again, doing rallies, doing events, getting
into colleges and doing all the stuff we do. But I'm not going to sit here and
tell you it was the same because it wasn't no, I mean, no, - First of all, the
whole culture around the country was depressed and fearful and apprehensive and having
me there, people were worried about it and they were worried about, you know, we're
having this J6, I was no longer the walk away guy, I was the J6 guy, which is
gross and I hate it. - Different story. - Yeah. - In view of all the hurdles, how
did you maintain your sanity and keep the momentum and the movement alive during the
three years that you were actually four years that you weren't allowed to really be
who you are. Yeah well regarding the sanity first of all I'm not sure I did I
would say that no I mean honestly but no but I give you a lot of credit because
you're past which we didn't go into in this podcast but a prior podcast you were
addicted to alcohol you had drug issues and one would think that given the pressures
that the government put you and the penalties that they put you under that you
would have reverted so I admire you for the fact that you didn't do that.
I appreciate that. I think that there's something to the fact that when you know
that's what somebody's trying to You you if it's even if it's the only thing you
have left you say I'm not gonna let them have that like I'm not even believe me I
thought about it, you know I it's not like I sat around craving alcohol or drugs,
but you certainly get to a point where there's so much destruction Yeah, I could
use a drink it right. Yeah, like what is the point? What is the point of like
trying to stay sober like every like wrecked everything, right? You know, um, they
really try to destroy Yeah, yeah, they did they did and - They did succeed in some
areas. They didn't destroy me, but they-- - They weakened the organization. - They
severely damaged me, the organization, and the momentum in all of those things. And
I'm gonna say something to you right now that, I guess you're not supposed to say,
but it's the truth, and I always tell the truth. What kept me going during certain
periods was hate,
and a real desire vengeance, you know, and... - Valid!
You know, I'm not a Christian, as you know. Jews don't believe in turning the other
cheek. The Bible is filled with acts of vengeance and battles that we've won.
And what are the problem with leftist Jews? Is that they're too passive. They're too
passive. - Yeah, see, I did grow up Christian, and, you know, so I was told all
the time that there's, you there's no place for hate, and the hate is a useless
emotion. And I think I really learned through this last four years, not the value,
but that there is a time and place for hate. I think that I don't think it's
necessarily a wasted emotion if hate is what is keeping you alive at times,
not the only thing. I'm not saying that's all I had, but I think that there were
times where I would have just said to myself, I just need to get through this case
and I'm done. I'm gonna go, you know, work at Walmart or just like to hell with
all of this, right? And then there are times I just thought to myself, no, these
people need to pay for what they did. I need to get as many people to see the
light and leave the Democratic Party as possible because we have to win in 24 or
we're doomed. So, and also What I built is so unique and I think phenomenal and
necessary No, I'm not going to just Cave and let them take it right and you did
go forward even though you were in probation at the time Yeah, you you walk away.
You revived it. You kept it running. That's right And you did some interesting
programs tell me about some of them Yeah, and so if we were to just talk about
the last let's say three years because of course there was the whole year where I
disappeared but once I was able to come back which really about two and a half
years given my house arrest we went into DC and we did the walkway black Americans
debate which you were a big part of sponsoring and that was a phenomenal event I
mean absolutely incredible but we continued to go to colleges all over the country
so the government didn't didn't enforce any restrictions on what you could do.
- That's right. - Wow. - Okay, wonderful. That's a positive. - Yeah. Now,
I mean, and I did not allow them to get into my head to the point where I said,
let's not do this or let's do that, but I'd be lying if I said, there wasn't
always a dark cloud over everything. Because a lot of what we do is controversial
and a lot of what we do attracts Antifa, attracts people on the left.
There have been a number of times at walkaway events where these people have shown
up and either gotten physical with me or other people or your customers.
Disruptive. Disruptive for sure. Now, depending on where you are, it's almost
guaranteed that you're not going to find justice in these situations because let's
say you go to Portland or Seattle or something and and Tifa comes, they're the one,
you know, you're going to be portrayed as the aggressor, not them. You caused the
trouble. That's right. But it's one thing to be in a situation like that, you know,
when Donald Trump is the president and thinks it's another to be in a situation
like that, when Joe Biden is the president, the Democrats are controlling him.
Exactly. Exactly. When the Justice Department already has it in for you. Right. So I
would, I'd be lying if I didn't say I was a little extra worried that those could
take place and nevertheless, you still went forward. - I still went forward. - And
then you had the campaign called the political prosecution tour. Tell us about that.
- Well, that's coming up. That's actually coming up. So that's going to be one of
the next things that we're doing this year. So, you know, every year I travel
around the country going into colleges and we always go into minority communities
with walk away because one of the things I wanted to do with the walk away
organization is I always say, fill in the holes of where I feel like the
conservative movement is failing. And one of the ways in which I saw that the
conservative movement is failing is connecting effectively with minority communities.
- Yes, yes, they did better than the-- - They have gotten better. They have gotten
better, but we still have a long way to go. And honestly, I would say that at the
time when I started Walkaway, which has now been, in May it'll be seven years,
we were pretty much the only ones at the time that we're out there doing that. And
still, I don't feel like the Republican Party does what we do, but at least they're
kind of trying like now. But in terms of this tour, okay,
like, let's look at this, for instance, the black community has been saying for
decades that they're targeted by law enforcement, that they're disproportionately
victims of the criminal system. Now, we we can discuss and debate the validity of
some of these claims, certainly. But what I can do absolutely now is go in there
and say, look, I am somebody who has been on the receiving end of the targeting of
the justice system. I know exactly what your claims feel like. And look,
there's, there's one party who's demonizing convicted felons, You know about 33
percent of black men are convicted felons 33 percent that's astronomical huge in that
unbelievable and now you know the the Democrat party that at one time portrayed
themselves as proponents of criminal justice reform and friends and advocates of
justice impacted people well the moment that Donald Trump they saw an opportunity to
make Donald Trump into a convicted felon Now they think convicted felons are the
scum of the earth and shouldn't be allowed to breathe or live or exist in society.
So my message right now, I wanna go into the black community. I want to go into
colleges and talk to young people, but I wanna say, you know, which party is
demonizing just as impacted people in convicted felons and which party elected one to
be president of the United States, right? You know, so I mean, if these are issues
that concern you like consider rethinking who you're supporting because you know it's
a whole different Republican Party now it's a different and it's a different Democrat
Party for sure hundred percent absolutely now you did kick off a program what was
it called the $100 ,000 walk away video program where you gave incentives cash
incentives yeah for people to make their own video about why they walked away it
was - It was $10 ,000, we're not there yet. I look forward to the day that we can
do the $100 ,000 challenge. But no, what we did is we called it the Walkway $10
,000 Testimonial Video Challenge. And so what we did is we asked people to submit
their testimonial videos to us, as people have now for almost seven years. - Whoa,
great. - Yeah, but we gave away a variety. We ran it kind of like a game show
just to make it kind of fun, right? - So if I recall, I believe that third place
got $500, second place got $1 ,000, and first place got a $10 ,000.
- Really, 10 grand? - 10 grand, cash prize. And then we gave out T -shirts and merch
and stuff like that too. But we told people, we're judging these videos on various
criteria. The first and most important thing is your story and how heartfelt and
sincere your story is about why you walked away from liberalism and the Democratic
Party. But then we're awarding extra points. And by the way, you should use the
term leftism. Leftism, right? Because we're all liberals. We have liberal views about
most things. Right. It's leftist. That's the problem. You're right. But you're right
about that. No, you're right about that. So why you walked away from leftism,
Democrat Party. And and then we're awarding extra points for things like creativity
or video value. The the - Absolutely. So our first place winner,
yeah, that's right, I had to think, our first place winner actually created a song
and a music video in his testimonial and it was good, it was legitimately good.
- Fantastic. - I mean, he put so much effort into this. - And you put these on your
web, they're available on your website. - Yeah, so we shared them on our X accounts,
we shared them on Facebook. - Fantastic. - We shared them on our YouTube channel and
our website. So these guys got a lot of exposure, which they were excited about.
They also got cash prizes, which they were excited about. But it got, you know, I
think it got a sense of fun and play around this very genuine experience that
people are having. And it gets, I think, having other faces other than you telling
your story, which we already know. It's new faces, young faces, and that will help
convince other people to walk away. - I mean, two of our top three were black guys.
I mean, young black guys. And so this guy who won, he was a pretty young black
guy who made a music video and shared his story about walking away. The guy I
think who got second place was actually a rapper and he had done like a rap video
but for his walk away video, he just did like, I think kind of a standard video.
But yeah, I mean, we had a really diverse cross -section of people who shared their
stories, and we would love to do a contest like that every quarter, like maybe two,
three, four times a year, if funding allows. But it was a really cool and I think
unique way of getting people excited. Great idea. Yeah. Changing the topic,
your views on America are much aligned with those of President Trump so did you get
involved with his most recent political campaign I did not and I also didn't push
the issue because I didn't want to put him in a tough situation to have somebody
connected with January 6 I see insisting that I be a part of the tea I would have
loved it I'm sure they would have loved it probably you know to some degree and by
the way I did that with a lot of people. It was, I didn't feel like it was fair
to put some people in that position. Like let's take for instance, say Matt Schlapp
was CPAC. Matt continued to invite me to speak at CPAC every year and I did. And
I was very grateful for that experience and opportunity because one, it's a great
experience. Two, it makes me feel good, you know, to be included as, you know,
part of that community. It's a movement. Yeah. But there were other situations where,
you know, even though I knew the person still loved me, supported me, whatever, you
know, maybe there was a little bit of distance, and I understood why. And so it's
not something that I pushed. Now I'm a pardoned man, you know. So I think over the
next four years, I'm going to push a lot harder, you know, with the Trump team and
the RNC to say, hey, you know, what Walkway is doing is amazing. And we need you
guys to be well president Trump publicly. Thank you for your video entitled six
years later why I still walk away from the Democrat Party and You know,
I just watched that video last week It is an intense and compelling nine -and -a
-half minute video Narrated by Brandon the details in rapid -fire fashion using
numerous video clips, the destruction, division, and damage that the Democrats have
done to America's culture, values, and freedoms over the past few years. The video
has gone viral with many millions of views and has been praised by Vivek Ramaswamy,
Lara Trump, Mike Huckabee, Rick Ganal, Carrie Lake, in addition to President Trump.
You can find it on YouTube at the link we're going to show below or more simply,
just go to YouTube and type the five words "Brandon struck six years later" into
YouTube's search box and you'll get to that video.
So talking about President Trump, he recently pardoned 1 ,500 people who were charged
in connection with the January 6th attack on the U .S. Capitol, the so -called
insurrection. You were one of those pardoned. So how did you find out that you were
one of those 1 ,500? Did you get a letter from him or from the Justice Department,
or did you get a phone call from your probation officer? How did you know that you
have a pardon? Ed McMahon showed up at my door with a great big part in
certificate. No no no I hate to let you down but it here's the story you know
Trump had been saying for a long time that on day one he was planning to pardon
some J6ers at least right yes and so here we are January 20th it's it's an
auguration day and I'm saying they're going on I didn't hear anything you know I'm
like, Oh boy, this isn't good. And, um, you know, but I'm also, you know, in
constant communication, because now I'm friends with dozens of people who've gone
through January six, even though we didn't know each other before, but we've gone
through this together. And nobody had heard anything. So I'm like, okay, well, that's
a good sign. Um, and, uh, you know, it gets to be, he, he, he gave his address
and then he went to the capital arena and in front of all those people said, uh,
I'm I'm gonna be going back to the Oval Office and pardoning some of these J6ers
and you know, and I'm still going oh my god So sat there glued to the TV and he
goes back to the Oval Office and then all of a sudden it appears on the on the
TV Trump pardons 1500 J6ers well I start freaking out because I knew that about 1
,587 people have been charged so I'm thinking mmm did 87 people not get pardoned and
like, who are they? Right? But it was probably about an hour after that I got a
call from my attorney and he said, "I just read the executive order. You're
pardoned, congratulations." That's how I found out. And then I had already booked an
interview that night with Greg Kelly on the Greg Kelly show on Newsmax. So that
interview was coming on 20 minutes after I got the call from my attorney. so and
Greg's show is live so I I wasn't in studio but I was on you know Skype and I
was in an Airbnb in DC but I go on this interview with Greg Kelly literally about
20 minutes after I found out I had been pardoned and just heard crying on air and
but I wasn't just crying for myself or crying for the fact that I had been
pardoned I start crying because it just all started to hit me and, you know, I
don't know if people fully know or appreciate, you know, five people committed
suicide, uh, because they couldn't, could not bear what the government was doing to
people. And I, the, they just couldn't handle it. And I, I became aware at that
moment that, you know, there are five people who aren't here to get this pardon,
you know, today. And for them, a pardon came too late. But, um, But and I that's
the part I think that really hit me hard. But it was it was a roller coaster of
emotions and OK, really amazing. And now that you can breathe more easily, you we
talked earlier today about getting even about some vengeance.
Is there a chance that you can seek monetary damages for the for the for what they
did to you. You lost, you lost four years of your life basically. You couldn't do
what you want to do. You couldn't travel. You were treated like a criminal. And
perhaps the Justice Department that's now in effect under President Trump will be
open to making a settlement with you and other J6ers for the unreasonable treatment
that they put you under? Well, that's certainly the hope. And so to answer your
question, yes, absolutely, I'm going to be pursuing justice.
I'll say justice. It's it's not justice. It's not about the money. Although, I mean,
that's a big part of the justice to be quite honest. But it's, um,
there's got to be some acknowledgement that what happened was unacceptable and that
honestly there's some contrition on behalf of the government and my hope is that you
know whatever form that action takes which is at this moment is you know not
totally fleshed out that they will in fact be open and amenable to some sort of
coming up together of the meeting of the minds, and that this isn't something we're
gonna fight out in the courts. I would certainly hope that something like that
wouldn't happen. - Right, well you deserve, you deserve some kind of settlement for
the torture, the torture that you've been through. - Yeah, and the destruction to my
name, my reputation, my organization, my career, it's been so much.
And honestly, I would like an apology. They didn't do it. Trump didn't do it. The
Trump DOJ didn't do it, but I think Given that we now have a good and noble man
in the office and a good and noble government I would like a good and noble
government to apologize for the actions of Right, so I would say that if they agree
to some sort of monetary settlement you should say one last thing I want a letter
of apology and the one that says I've been pardoned. - Right. - You want that for
your records. - I like that. - You want to hang that on your wall. - Right.
- Brandon, thank you for spending time with me today and thank you so much more for
your courage and successful efforts to educate Americans about the hypocrisy of the
left and to encourage them to walk away. - Thank you, Dr.
Bob. And I'd just like to say thank you for your ongoing support of the
organization, of the movement, and always great to talk to you, and thank you for
always being a supporter and advocate. It means the world. Thank you.
Since its founding in 2018, more than three quarters of a million people have joined
the walkaway movement. That's over 750 ,000 fewer votes for Democrats and 750 ,000
additional votes for Republicans. It's a meaningful swing of one and a half million
votes. If you would like to help Brandon continue his successful efforts to get
Democrats to make that switch, then please make a tax -deductible donation to the
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